Michi Jigarjian is the CEO and founder of Work of Art Holdings (WOAH) and a Managing Partner at 7G Group, advancing art-led, socially responsible projects that strengthen communities. She helped shape the award-winning Rockaway Hotel’s arts-driven revitalization, led Baxter St at CCNY, serves on the Brooklyn Museum’s executive committee and the National YoungArts Foundation board (DEAI Chair), and has taught at Bard College. Jigarjian and Zuckerman discuss community building and designing platforms, interruptions, problem-solving, what the next step can be, ecosystems of athletes, perfect practice, flow, bringing the creative back into the game, what actually matters, how women lead differently, deserving to sit at the table, things that are bigger, who provides agency, how we do both, finding joy, loving to host, sport hobbies, letting things grow bigger than you, seeing actual change happen because of Art, and non-transactional conversations!